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Regulation Issues

Posted by Andrew Gaiennie on Apr 9, 2011 10:57 pm

So every state in the Union is probably looking at deregulation of surveyors now and I have no idea why. What does a state gain by deregulating a profession like ours? 


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Re: Regulation Issues

Posted by Radar on Apr 9, 2011 11:46 pm




You my friend, have opened up a whole new can of worms......"What does a state gain by deregulating a profession like ours?

The question is:....... What do they have 2 lose?......
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Re: Regulation Issues

Posted by RADU on Apr 10, 2011 12:35 am

Andrew, I am surprised that you never discussed your Q at university!


What does a state gain by deregulating a profession like ours
?

Catching up with the real world !


The only portion of surveying requiring regulation is the licensing of surveyors to perform boundary identification and re identification surveys. Here in South Australia the government guarantee inadvisability of title. Here we have a co regulatory system between government and profession. Basically where the profession through the surveyors board  attends to the education and  training of surveyors, raising its funds through registration and licensing fees and a plan lodgment levy around $ 80 on all certified plans of survey lodged in the Lands Titles Office. The government. is responsible for the Surveyors Act and associated regulations and the central  Lands Title Office functions. This  means that there is assurance for the Government, and client  that the holder of the license has acquired the minimum university education, post graduate training and completed the Board's assessment requirements to become a boundary surveyor. For all other forms of surveying discipline the graduates  gain registration in their chosen field. Again indicating a minimum standard of achievement that indicates suitability to practice in that field.

I suggest he biggest problem for US surveyors is that the current licensing system is so BROAD, where by the holder of a surveyors license is actually  not an implied master of ALL. That  alone has probably damaged the professional image.

Today every field of surveying is specialized. Sure I could come to the US and measure, just as you could travel here and measure, both using the same orbiting satellites, however we would both be in the same dilemma in knowing how to process the data so that the resulting out put  met the local standards.  It is called specialization.

In the 21 century it is almost insane to say that some of the fields of surveying require a boundary surveying license because data is magically fixed to a boundary.  Your business concept plan of scanning is but one example. In reality the only time a licensed surveyor would be needed when using a scanner would be when scanned items are required to be located specifically in relation to boundaries.

In the 21 century it is insane that a university graduate education is not a prerequisite to becoming a qualified US surveyor.

Sorry, but America needs if necessary, to be dragged kicking and screaming into the real world of surveying, with both sweat and articulation learnedly combined.



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Re: Regulation Issues

Posted by MLB on Apr 10, 2011 1:08 am

The answer is nothing. But they won't figure that out until later. Let us remember the states deregulating things are not zeroing in on surveying. Boards have office space, accounting and mailing costs. Clearly they want to unload overhead in a government "Going Out Of Business" sale. They fully understand there will be repercussions down the road. But you need to understand that "leaders" are mostly followers too. When an idea gets a bit of popular appeal everybody jumps on the bandwagon.

Not getting a blessing from the state doesn't make the service go away. Those still in the game simply need to find out how best to prosper under the new rules.
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Re: Regulation Issues MLB.....

Posted by RADU on Apr 10, 2011 2:54 am


MLB prosperity is simple....... user pays...

Regulate so ALL surveys changing boundary data or dividing land incurs a $$$ levy as plans lodged ( overand above wxisting fees charged), as is SOZ case to fund the governing body run by the profession.  Works like a charm here!

Governments LOVE self funding bodies. Called Co-regulation at NO COST to the government......


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