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RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

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RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

Posted by benc on Sep 20, 2012 2:04 am

my sokkia radian dealer says that RTK is possible to reach above 10 km using radio/cell.
i have used RTK in the past for topo survey but the base is located less than 500m-1km away via radio link.
a client was asking me if it is possible to cover a topo/hydro several kilometers away from base - 5km-10km?

anyone tried doing this? what will your vertical accuracy be in the 10 km range be? I am asking for actual not product specifications.

when we were doing bathymetry survey with rtk, post processing from 2 base units still results in points with deviation in the >10 cm.
and the distances are less than 2km away.

thanks.
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Re: RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

Posted by Brett Black on Sep 20, 2012 3:25 pm

RTK is certainly capable of those distances. It would depend on the receiver and the type of communication between the base and rover.

A single frequency base and rover with low power radios would not offer that type of distance between base and rover (more of a line of sight solution), however, if you had a Pac Crest 35 watt radio (or similar hardware) you could push 5-10km, but that would be in a perfect environment with minimal obstructions and your ability to maintain fix/lock would be a bit more difficult. Also your TTFF (time to first fix) could be extended if you do not have optimal control spread through the project. 

Dual frequency receivers (with a high power radio, like a Pac Crest 35 watt radio) would be better suited for a project of that size and trying to maintain that long of a distance between base and rover.
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Re: RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

Posted by Paul Koren on Sep 22, 2012 10:30 am

if it really is a Radian ( and not a Radian IS) then you should be aware that it will not give a fixed RTK solution for vectors over 10km. this is  a hardwired threshold value.

More recent receivers can easily go beyond 10 k - your limitation is usually the range of the datalink.

best regards,

Paul
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Re: RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

Posted by benc on Sep 24, 2012 8:24 am

Hi everyone
Thanks for the replies.

Maybe a better question would be - 

At 10km will the elevation values from the rover unit still be reliable to topographic survey points?
If I will be making a contour map from the RTK points will the contours still be a good representation of the actual terrain?
I was under the impression that as RTK rovers are farther away from the base, errors in vertical (and horizontal) will be
increasing thus affecting the point's elevation values.

Thanks.

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Re: RTK Maximum Distance For Topo Survey

Posted by Brett Black on Oct 26, 2012 2:54 pm

I do not know anything about the Radian receivers or the options they contain, but you are correct, in a base/rover solution, the further from the base station you increase the PPM error assocaited.

I would suggest testing your setup and configuration to see if it will meet your project accuracy needs.
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